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captioning made possible by johnson & johnson, where quality products for the american family have been a tradition for generations >> osgood: good morning. i'm charles osgood and this is "sunday morning." for the millions of loyal viewers, tv crime shows are appointment tell little vision, not to be missed. you could even say they're "to die for." even though nbc announced this week it was cancelling the original "law & order" series after 20 seasons there will be no need to worry, there will be
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plenty of crime shows on tel television. as tracy smith will report on our crime sear sear res. >> hit shows come and go, but crime tv pays and death springs eternal. >> murder is the ultimate catalyst for a story because it is the highest. >> making tv takes guts. >> there are times that you have pushed the envelope too far? >> sure. sure. i'm always agrade the audience is going to get bored. >> later on "sunday morning," entertainment to die for. >> speaking of pushing the envelope, a sculptor has been creating innovative works all across our land and making a splash in the process. barry petersen will be showing us how he does it. >> water, water, everywhere. liquid gold. flowing from the imagination of designer, mark foley, who creates fountains, that tickle
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the soul. >> to be standing and having that water over my head, even now i'm thinking, is that really happening? it's a pretty wild feeling. >> the man who turns ordinary water into extraordinary art, later on "sunday morning." >> osgood: americans said farewell to past week to lena horne, the great singer who died at the age of 92. this morning, we pay our respects about i looking back at one of her most memorable television moments. hers was a technicolor tale in black and white. when the late ed bradley sat down to talk with her in 1981, she was reflective. >> did you ever think of trying to a pass. >> it would never occur to be anything other than what i was. >>. >> osgood: defiant. >> i said i would never go back to hollywood. >> osgood: and most definitely, miss lena horne. to see and hear later. when would celebrities not
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want to hear their writings read out loud word for word in front of an appreciative audience. i'll tell you when, this they're being recited at the type of event that bo rock ka participated. in >> even a fool with understand . what i'm talking about. >> but we loved god. >> now they're being performed onstage, word for word, heaven help us. >> i, who normally speak naked except for -- sleep naked except for diamond earrings, am not wearing them. >> celebrity autobiographies. ahead on "sunday morning." >> bob simon has a real life story of crime and punishment, david edlestein deconstructs tv series finales. david hartman introduces us to a skydiving hero, but here's here
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are the headlines for "sunday morning," 16th of may, 2010. it's back to the drawing board in the gulf of mexico. an attempt to use a tube to siphon leaking oil from the spill. scientists say the spill is far worse than they thought. they say there to be mrums of 80 barrels a day. protestering in thyland say they're willing to negotiate an end to the deadly demonstrations rocking the capital city. the anti-government red shirts group says its only conditions for talks are an immediate cease-fire and withdrawal of troops. the thy government has rejected that offer. volcanic ash is again disrupting european air travel. it's coming from the samt volcano in iceland that grounded planes in april. some airports in ooild and great britain shut down this morning, more closures may follow. as the space shuttle "atlantis" arrives at the international space station, nasa's mission control says a
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piece of space junk passing through a few miles of the station does not pose a threat. the nine-year-old dutch boy who survived that plane crash in libya returned home aboard an airborne ambulance. he was immediately taken to a hospital in his home town. his parents and blower were among the 103 people killed in wednesday's crash. for the 32nd consecutive year, there will be no triple crown winner. "looking at lucky" yesterday would be the 135th preakness stakes in baltimore. super saver finished eighth in the field. it was quite a hail storm in capital, colorado, six inches of hail fell in 20 minutes time. let's hope today's weather is less dramatic. it should be a nice spring day in the northeast but heat and rain may make the south a little less than comfortable. it will remain hot for a few days and the midwest will be dry, the storms will hit the east coast by the midweek.
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>> take a look at those skid marks. >> don't touch that dial -- our killer cover story is just ahead. >> when you say that i'm a rich, juicy rib plum again? >> yeah, but you can't help your sexual
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>> osgood: tv crime shows. ask their viewers or their
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producers or just look at rating, it's pretty clear why they're to die for. our cover story is reported now by tracy smith. >> it is, by any measure, a killer idea. >> prime time crime. dirty dooet deeds and clean resolutions. the ugliest murders and the most beautiful people. >> my name is cane miami, csi. >> dishing up justice in under an hour. >> police, open up! >> in a uniquely satisfying way. >> guilty on all counts. >> are crime shows the mack & cheese of the television world? >> they are enormously comforting. this is the comfort food of television. >> ready, and mark. >> and they have legs. the original "law & order" series, cancelled last week
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after 20 seasons, is tied with "gunsmoke" for the longest running prime time drama in history. >> crime dramas have always been popular, crime novels have already been popular in every culture, everywhere in the world. >> renee balsay, is "law & order's" executive prou deucer. >> the second story ever told was a murder mystery. adam and eve was the first, a love story and the second was murder sq;añhmystery, kane and . >> but the kane and abel story was never told like this. for "csi" forensic science is crucial but murder always part of the story. >> the stakes are the highest. there's no higher stakes than human life. there are art heist, and they
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are not successful. america understands the person next door was brutally murdered and she had her whole life ahead of her. >> apparently, murder travels well. in fact there are fewer places in the world where "csi" isn't shown. >> the running joke is really is that csi airs in every country but six. north korea, uzbek stan, iran, iraq and a couple 6 others i probably can't name. but it is really shown in every second of every day around the world as we speak. >> of course, you might expect csi to be a hit in great britain. >> i like csi because i feel like it's so clever and really technical. >> but the show is also popular if places where america is not. in damascus, syria, for instance, "csi -- miami" with arabic subtitles is on three times a week. >> i know so many people that like following that show right
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now. >> following "csi?" >> yes. do you think americans are more into it than people from other countries. >> i don't think so. i don't think we have to rush out to our analysts and be concerned that we are a little strange over ear here. >> australian-born shane brenen who is in charge of ncis and ncis los angeles says tv crime drama has universal appeal. >> at the end of the day, we are made up of the same ataoms and same dab and we have the same emotional responses. >> and we all like murder. >> we all like to see the murderer get caught. >> thank you. >> time to go high-tech, huh? >> and more than ever, we also like to see how the murderer gets caught, with high-tech computersen and super competent police. and you may be surprised to know that one reason for that is september 11th. there's a belief that the horror
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of 9/11 created a huge sense of vulnerability in our national consciousness and watching the good guys win makes us feel better. new york university professor, aurora wallace. >> it's as though we are giving an answer to a previous moment of a failure of intelligence, and a failure of technology. not like -- >> not like i sit down a watch a crime show and now i'm going to feel better about september 11. >> no, of course not. but it's much more reassuring at the end of the show than it is at the end of the news. >> you have got basically a fight of good against evil. and given the events of 9/11 and everythings that happened since and continues to happen, i think what the audience are looking for is reassurance. >> but beyond reassurance, crime dramas can, for some people, color their view of the world. a 2009 purdue university study found that some people who watch a lot of crime shows tend to
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overestimate the frequency of serious crimes, like murder. professor david schmidt of the state university of new york at buffalo. >> it seems that you can't escape crime no matter where you live. so, these shows often have to pull off a very difficult balancing act. on the one hand, they generate fear, but if that's all they did, they wouldn't be popular. what they have to do at the same time is to control that fear, to persuade their audience that, you know, something can be done about it, and the place -- the world is safer than it appears to be, and i think that's what a show like "csi" does so incredibly well. >> her head littlerally hanging by a thread of. >> something else crime shows do well. >> dead bodies actually look fake in real life. >> the real dead bodies look fake. >> but the fake dead bodies look real. >> the real dead bodies smell
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and they're in your pores for days. >> are there times when you pushed the envelope too far? >> sure. sure. my job as a creator. our job as executive producers is to push the envelope as far as it possibly can, that doesn't upset the audience or break their trust. it's cbs's job to see what's applicable for error and that's the relationship that we live in. >> so, how often does that happen that you're pushing the envelope and they're say, tone back a little bit p for me, quite often. >> quite often. >> because i'm always afraid the audience is going to get bored. >> what are we looking at, stella. >> murder/suicide with a twist. >> in another study, researchers at indiana university showed people episodes of "24," "the sopranos" and others, with all of the violent scenes cut out. the test subjects said they enjoyed the non-violent ones significantly more than the
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people who saw the original versions. >> do you think it could do it without the squeamish stuff and shock value stuff? >> i think we can. i think science goes far beyond gore and shock value. it's fascinating that we don't have to show the gore to make the shows successful. but for entertainment value, the show does work when we do that. >> and producers say it will likely keep working as long as there is violence, virtue and viewers with an appetite for both. >> will murder stories be with us forever? >> murder stories will be with us for -- absolutely forever. it's so much part of our d.n.a., that we need to be challenged. we need to be scared. we need to triumph over the bad in the world. >> i think if you can create something and make something from week to week that the whole world enjoys every second of every day, it's special. it sends the right message, if you commit a crime, we're going to catch you.
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>> osgood: every artist dreams of making a splash. and the fellow you're about to meet succeeds in that goal quite
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literally. with barry petersen, we take the plunge. >> a nobel prize winner once put it simply -- there is no life without water. a necessity of life, and some days, it turns against us. but to this man, water is liquid gold. to be shaped and directed, the ordinary streamed into crowd pleasing extraordinary. and every now and then, mark fuller, equal parts artist and engineer, gazes with a touch of wonder at what he has created. fountains that dance, like this one outside the bellagio hotel in las vegas.
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>> what we're focused on is making people stop and think -- wow. i'm happy to be alive. this is a pretty neat thing. it and's free! we're constantly deluged with letters of people writing in to saying we just got engained by the fountain of bellagio. where we got married by the fountain. the think the magic that that we bring to these projects is something that sparks that connection. >> mark fuller has now created more than 200 fountens worldwide. he has come a long way from this very first found tan, done in his early days for disney's epcot center in florida. here's the fountain he designed for detroit metro airport. and curtain going up on one of
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his latest, the famed fountain at new york city's lincoln center. creation sometimes starts with a bang. >> this is a hypershooter. this jet shoots 250 feet the sky. that's 25 stories. it's powered by pure compressed air. >> fuller built his first fountain in the family garden in utah when he was nine years old. >> this is all about visual communication. i mean, if you look around -- >> that childhood fascination led to this -- fuller calls is water entertainment technologies. "wet" for short. the company he founded in burbank, california. here it's not about water, it's about what fuller calls laminer
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flows. >> even though i'm thinks is that really happening? >> it doesn't look that complicated. a stream of water is forced through a series of smaller and smaller tubes until the water molecules are marching together like soldiers on parade. >> so somehow you have convinced the molecules to play well together. ? >> we have displained these guys. >> and there's no spray. there's not a drip. there's nothing. >> zero. i can put a peace of paper here all day long and you wouldn't see a drop. >> it would be dry. >> every school child knows that fire and water don't mix, but not in the world of mark fuller. >> we have got two of the most common elements op the planet here. both going back to caveman eva. you have fire and water and we have all seen them both but we are looking at that like we have never seen anything before. >> and it's not just the science of water that fuller has changed. it is also the very concept of what a fountain is.
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a beautiful work of sculpture, say, rome's famed trevi fountain, just isn't enough. but make no mistake, mark fuller's fountains are works of art. >> art is like recommend brant and van gogh created with paint and a piece of canvas. mark fuller needs pipes and hydraulics, electronics and water cannons. >> and when fuller got a call to create fountens for the new city center hotel and mall in las vegas, he did what any artist would do -- try something new. explore something different. up came huge plastic tubes, with swirls of water. a place to stare and stroll. and look at these huge shafts of sculpted ice, a place to reach out and touch. the fountain and its audience
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are interactive. >> each one of these is a pump that goes up in the back. >> beneath the surface, a master control resembling missile silos in a nuclear submarine. >> the one thing is right above the ceiling here, we can't see it, we carve these as they come out of the ground, so they don't come up as pure cylinder, although that in itself would be pretty amazing. but we can make wild sculpture on them by eroding the ice as it emerging from that pool. >> which brings us to what may be the greatest challenge he ever faced -- a commission from dubai calling for nothing less than the grandest most complex fountain ever built. >> the chairman who engaged us for that, was enchanted with the bellagio, and came to us and said i want to you do something very much like the bellagio and we said amongst ourselves and when i was on the sight, the last thing we want to do is rip mri indicate bellagio. >> instead, he created this.
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what's become one of the most popular tourist attractions in the middle east, the length of two football fields with 6600 lights and of course, cannons that shoot water almost 500 feet. that's almost 50 stories. >> we wanted people to be able to be there, and not feel just that they're looking at some huge spectacle, but we wanted them to feel personally engaged. >> not just for the people of dubai -- but for everyone, everywhere, crafting beauty like sunsets that are not static, but ever-changing. >> everything in our features is temporal, changing. so you see it for a moment and you just have a memory. >> not bad for a man who really just a nine-year-old boy at heart. playing with water.
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>> osgood: california, here we come. the design issue. next on "sunday morning." ahead right now -- >> it's going to be over. >> osgood: the final word on tv finales.
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>> please be careful with that. it was pie grandmother's. be careful. >> if that falls off the truck, it wouldn't be the worst thing. >> it's "sunday morning" on cbs. here again is charles osgood. >> that he the way the long running series, "friends" ended back in 2004. producing a finale that does justice to a show can be big business. david edlestein looks back on the hits and misses. >> along with million, i have got butterflies because "lost" is ending. six seasons of cool actors hop-scotching through time, billions of internet posts dissecting every metaphysical conundrum. >> they found us. >> and it could all disappear down a black hole. a series finale is a heavy
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responsibility. we live with these surrogate family as long time. we want closure, but not too much or the wrong kind. nothing to keep us from going back in our minds, or our reruns. the two-and-a-half hour finale of "mash" the most watched ever, got it right. now, the goodbyes did go on, but the show's bittersweetness was perfectly summed up. the characters desperate to leave that bloody, tragic war but not one another, other us. yet. i still haven't gotten over last year's ending of "battlestar galactica." that daringly political sigh ki odyssey that went gooey and supernatural. >> will she be all right. >> she survived, thanks to you. >> the finale wasn't just bad, it poisoned all that had come before.
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>> wow. it's only a year. >> that's not so bad. >> the last "seinfeld" now, that was creepy, as if writer, larry david believed the critics who complained about the characters' sellishness. he ended with them in jail to for being jerks. but to me, "seinfeld" was the most inspiring testament to friendship in tv history because those people were so awful, crazy, dysfunctional, yet formed a perfect nurturing ecosystem. now, too tidy finales leave me cold. "the fugitive" left me cold when david jensen caught up with the man who killed his wife. >> yeah, i killed her, now i'm going to kill you. >> it was too neat. the chase was over. nothing more to think about it, move along. >> you won't believe the dream i just had. >> "newhart" killed with a final joke reaching back to bob's
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>> osgood: when it comes to crime and punishment here in america, 43 states allow life sentences for juveniles without parole. the supreme court will rule this term on the constitutionality of these juvenile life sentences in some cases. the ruling that will impact about 2,000 inmates. among them, christy sharamie, she was just 16 when she says her boyfriend gene in her presence killed his great aunt. she says she has nothing to do with the murder. still she was convicted and sentenced to life in prison. now at 32, she sat down at louisiana correctional institute for women with bob simons of "60 minutes." >> i was scared of him. he had that control over me. i was afraid to disappoint him as far as everything that he had told me to do, i felt like i had to abide by that.
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>> gene zan was mildred turninge, a 74-year-old widow. she didn't trust banks so she kept all of her money, almost $10,000 in her closet. gene and christy knew about this, and stole from her. christy would distract turninge and gene went to the closet and took the money, it was robbery, pure and simple, and it happened twice, but the third time it turned into murder. >> but never did i ever think with any of my heart that he would have ever hurt his aunt. >> but as they approached the house, she says, gene pulled out a knife. >> i said, gene what is that for? he said, christy, i'm going to kill her if i have to. i was so distraught and scared, i didn't know what to do. he said, and you're coming in there with me. i felt like i had no other choice but to go in there with him. >> she told us that she still didn't think that gene would use the knife.
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>> he knocked on the door, and she opened the door, and he told me, he says -- you and aunt nan, go make some coffee and that's where we headed to the kitchen, and that's when he kim up behind us, and that's when he stabbed her the first time. >> where? >> in the back. >> is there anything that you could have done to have stopped him? >> i didn't know what was happening until after it had happened. >> did she say anything when she was stabbed. >> she said, please don't. and he stabbed her again. >> they took $4500 and drove off, leaving ms. turninge on the kitchen floor bleeding to death. some of gene's relatives knew that he had had been stealing from her. they told police gene was the obvious suspect. sheriff's deputies questioned gene and christy, eventually christy took deputies to where they had hidden the money. when gene saw them return with the money, he was furious. >> when he seen that i was
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telling them what happened that night, and i showed them where the money was, that's when he turned around and said, she done it. >> gene said that you had did the murder. >> right. >> you said that gene did the murder. why should we believe you? >> it's not a point of trying to make anybody believe me, because i know what the truth is, and i know that god knows what the truth is. >> the lead detective told us he believes gene did the stabbing. christy's arrest with a warrant even says gene was the killer. quote, gene mayeaux jr. did commit the crime of murder by stabbing her to death twice in the back. the prosecutor tells us, he wasn't sure, and what's more, he didn't care who stabbed her, because under louisiana law, since they both went to rob ms. turninge, they are both guilty. >> they are both guilty in the ice of the law and they both need to be severely punished for that type of activity, for that
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type of crime. >> but if gene committed the myrrh and clift yea was there, do they both deserve the same punishment? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> but absolutely not says a respect researcher on adolescent development. he and his colleagues say juveniles make worse decisions than adults because their brains are still maturing. so juveniles should never be lngsed to life in prison without parole. >> the brain science helps us understand why that is the case. >> steinberg says ep teens are risk takers and more vulnerable to peer pressure. for example, studies show that adults drive better when other adults are in the car but using a videogame, stein wearing has proven that teens drive worse when they are driving with other teens. >> they're more easily coerced by other individuals. they're more likely to make impulsive decisions. >> their brains are still
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developing. >> their brains are sill developing and importantly, that affects their behavior. >> as for christy. >> do we think that a 16-year-old with an 18-year-old more powerful boyfriend and one who is holding a knife really has the emotional whereal to extricate herself from that situation? >> you are saying that her level of responsibility is less? >> that's right. her level of responsibility is less, and therefore, her level of criminal culpability is less also. >> i respectfully disagree. at 16 years of age, they know right from wrong. >> the issue isn't only whether someone knows right from wrong. no one is saying that juveniles who commit crimes should be excused. what we're saying is that they're level of punishment should be in proportion to the level of responsibility. >> the prosecutor offered christy a deal, plead guilty and spend the rest of your life in prison, or go to trial and risk the death penalty. at first, christy wanted the trial, but then during jury
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selection, christy was sating right here at the defense table and she heard a potential juror say, i don't care who did the killing, if christy was at the scene, she should die, too. that did it. christy started shaking and said to her lawyer, "i'll take the deal." >> he didn't want to die. i want to die. >> you plead guilty to save your life. >> i was scared to death. >> do you think that this kind of sentence -- sentencing a 16-year-old to life without parole, do you think it serves as a deterrent? >> i'm not going to tell you that it serves as a deterrent, but it is justice, justice, justice. >> gene is also serving life without parole. >> if you were to run into him, what would you say to him. >> why would he implicate me in something like this. >> you weren't implicated, you were there when the murder took place.
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>> i do deserve a life sentence? do i deserve to die here? >> this happened how long ago? >> 1994. >> you must have told this story many time? you still can't get through it without crying. what do you think about when you cry? >> i think about how wrong it was for me to be there, knowing that this woman -- this innocent woman's money was being taken. >> wasn't so much that her money was being taken, her life was being taken. >> but i didn't know at that point that her life was going to be taken. >> christy's only hope to get out of here rests with the pardon board. if the pardon board and the governor both agree, her sentence could be reduced from life to a set number of years, which eventually would make her eligible for parole. but this is so rare in louisiana, that over the last five years, while 276 prisoners applied, only four got their
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sentences reduced. >> this is my ged. >> since she was jailed 16 years ago, christy has been a model prisoner, respected by her fellow inmates and the authorities. prisons don't ally many lifers to enroll in college courses but christy has taken several and earned a degree in horticulture. >> let's go ahead and get this area weeded. >> she is both a mentor and teacher here, but none of that matters to the man who put her in this place. >> we are not to reward her for what her current conduct is. the point here is to punish her for the conduct of -- and the very heinous conduct that she committed. >> the prosecutor says that the victim's family wanted christy to spend the rest of her life in prison, but now two of miss turninge's closest relatives are having second thoughts. >> do you think she should be eligible for a parole hearing?
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>> yes, i do. because i think everybody should get a second chance in life. >> what is the argument against, after christy spends decades in jail, giving her a second chance? >> i think you have got to look at it in this respect -- christy tomorrow morning is going to be able to awaken and look at the -- look at the sun rise. i just want to tell you that since the year 1994, mrs. turninge has never seen the sun rise. >> i still feel that she was very, very young. >> they said miss turninge with a want christy to get a second chance. >> and aunt nan is one person would tell us to let it go. >> let it go. >> do you ever have a picture in your mind of what it will be like when you are 60 years old here? >> i have thought about it many days. i even watch other people who
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have served far more time than i have, and i look at them and how they have grown old here, and how they're not given a second chance. and it -- it saddens my heart, because i'm in the same boat. >> if i had to do it all over again, i would do it again. no question about that. >> there's no such thing as forgiveness. >> oh, i didn't say that. i didn't say that. you can forgive, but you can still punish. >> and that punishment can neff run out. >> i would certainly hope not. >> osgood: coming ñwçwçyyob "know the species, know the stain." lanolin-free coat, i know it's an alpaca. walks in here, looks says "hey look, it's a llama!" cleaning the stain like he would a llama stain. time he's wasting. ♪ call 1-800-steemer
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[ beeping ] ♪ my country ♪ 'tis of thee ♪ sweet land ♪ of liberty ♪ of thee i sing [ laughs ] ♪ oh, land ♪ where my fathers died ♪ land of the pilgrims' pride ♪ from every mountainside ♪ let freedom ring ♪ >> osgood: how far would you go to save the life of someone you hardly knew? while you're thinking about it -- take a look at this story
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from our steve hartman. >> sorting junk mail day after day. driving the same rural mail route week after week. you can understand why shirley digart of teag, texas thought she could use a little ix ill ration for a change. >> it was a spur of the moment thing and i thought, it might be kind of fun. >> so for her 54th birthday, this grandmother of three decided to send herself airmail to jump out of a plane from 13,000 feet. like all of these people, shirley would be strapped to her instructor in what's called a tandem jump. >> you're basically there just for the ride. >> this is shirley just before her jump and dave hartzog and soon to be hero and instructor. >> there isn't any video of what happened next. these pictures give you some sense of the horror.
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the first parachute opened but only partially and the reserve chute got tangled up with the first one. >> i was the just -- huh, so that's how i'm going to die. and i thought -- god, please help us. god please help dave. and we just continued to spiral. >> and so, it was, at roughly 40 miles an hour, and 100 feet from their maker, the dave did the truly unimaginable -- just before crashing, he told shirley to lift up her feet. he pulled on the control toggles to rotate their position to put his body under her, to act as a cushion so when they hit, he would take the brunt of the fall. >> i can't hardly believe it. he broke my fall. >> dave didn't die, but his valor cost him dearly. he is now paralyzed with just a little movement in his right arm
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>> people keep telling me it was a heroic thing to do. in my opinion, it was just the right thick to do. i was the one who was completely responsible for her safety. what other choices were there? >> you hear heroes say that, don't you? it's just because that's the kind of person they are. >> and this is the kind of person she is. the kind of hearn for whom a thank you note just won't do. >> how are you? >> pretty good. how you are doing? >> i'm doing -- well, pretty good. >> i'd hug you but -- >> why not? >> how are you doing? >> he had me laughing. i can't believe that. >> dave even invited her skydiving again. >> we're accidentproof now, baby. what are the odds something happening to you twice like that, yeah, come on. >> don't even say that. >> he really wants to do it, but shirley is not so sure. >> i will think a little bit more about the next one, maybe. i'm thinking. >> of course, dave has a very
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long row to hoe. right now, his mom has to do pretty much everything for him. >> he's doing good. >> that's clearly frustrating for dave, but it's also obvious that he has absolutely no regrets and no bitterness. >> the fact that you're okay makes me feel better. >> i guess heroes just can't help themselves. >> next, lena horne, remembered. >> osgood: and later -- >> we loved god. how we loved -- >> osgood: in their own words -- >> until you had to go back home.
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>> it's "sunday morning" on cbs and here again is charles osgood.
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>> osgood: that's lena horne, who died this past week at age 92. she was unquestionably a legend. back in 1981, when she had a one-woman show on broadway, she talked about her life with a good friend of our, the late ed bradley of "60 minutes." ♪ believe in yourself ♪ believe in yourself ♪ ♪ believe in yourself as i believe in you ♪ >> lena horne's 64th birthday was celebrated during one of broadway's most successful shows in years but her road to the top has been marked by tragedy, discrimination and çó
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misunderstands her looks and light come flex were a blessing and they opened doors and through the stage and screen made her assemble a dynamic personality. but they were also a stigma, the acceptance she wanted from her own people as a person wasn't there. >> how could my people really know what i was like? first of all, it would have been very silly for me to stand on the street corner somewhere in the ghetto and say, i'm lena horne, and i want to visit you. they would have -- done to me what i deserved to have done. i wanted to be with people who knew me. i didn't -- it took me a long time but i mernge edmerged thos lenas and i finally got it together. i'm just one lena horne now. >> critical success as a singer eluded lena for many year because she didn't fit any of the established categories for black female singers. today she laughingly agrees with
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the description of a close friend that she is just an old saloon singer. certainly, she has had her share of brawls, fighting to stay at a hotel where she could sing but not sleep, and walking out on a uso tour when she found black gis sitting behind german prisoners of war. >> i want to be sure that i mingle. >> you have a fire in you now, an ambition? >> yes. yes. >> you department have that then. >> i didn't have time, we were either so busy trying to get in the front door instead of the back and get in the swimming pool and sometime just actually getting a room, and a lot of times, being -- having our friends come in where we were, that i really didn't have time to sit down and enjoy all of this thing i was doing. >> today it's easy for critics to put a label on lena and her performance. but in the early '40s when she was invited for a hollywood screen test, the movie industry moguls who thought she could be
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a star because of the way she lookeds found they had an unexpected problem. >> they said to match that, to look at this woman. look at her. they create a makeup to make her look more colored. that's something a we called each other before we got straight. he said, okay. you know, they'll do anything. he said, i'll try. and he went away and come back about two weeks later with a makeup they created for me and named it "light egyptian." took this light egyptian and put it all over ava gardner. i'm going to tell you, i felt bad for a while. about 12 years.
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it was longer than 12 years. >> but you laugh and you joke about it. >> of course. >> it's not funny. it wasn't funny to you then. >> it wasn't funny, no. dochlgts you ever think of trying to pass. >> my grandmother would have died. it would never occurred to me to be anything other than what i was. >> so lena horne became a hollywood star, but she refused to play the role after maid and chances are, if you lived in the south and saw films like "zigfield follow list" or "leave me in las vegas." you wouldn't see lena horne. in most of the films she sang a song that could be ee at this timed out so as not to he offend the sensibilities of white audiences but there were two films that give her a chance to act. the all-black productions of "cabin in the sky" and "stormy weather." >> that song was to become her signature. ♪ don't know why there's no sun
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newspaper the sky stormy weather ♪ >> it's harder for me to sing stormy weather the way i did it first than the way i sing it now. >> i tell you there's one hell of a difference. >> oh, yes, because there's 40 years difference in me. ♪ don't know why there's no sun up in the sky stormy weather ♪ ♪ and my man and i ain't together ♪ ♪ keeps raining all the time >> i didn't want to be chosen. i had black people tell me, look, there's a million like you, which is absolutely true. with more talent, better looks and everything. you got picked.
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oh. bassy told me that, when he said i will never go back to hollywood. he said, you have to go. and they don't give us a chance enough and you're stuck. and i love count bassy and every time i see him, i say it's your fault. he says, sitter, you can't do that you have to go and be lena horne. you know. >> lena married when she was just 19, by her own admission for all of the wrong preens. she had two children but the marriage didn't last. in hollywood she had found not just a career but a new man. he was lenny hayden a musical arranger and that was okay, but he was also white and jewish and that was a problem. for three years they kept the marriage a secret. >> why did you marry him? >> because he had more entres than the black men. >> did you love him? >> not at first. i learned to.
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he loved me very much. and i learned to love him, because of how good he was to me. and patient. and the things that he taught me. and he could come in the club with me, and ask for this and that and the other and -- where a colored man -- i revert it that word because in those days that's what we said -- couldn't get me a job, you understand? and i -- i had to love him for that. because you see, then i began to be very hungry for him to see me as black. he had erased that part, and he had to say, you're right, i know now why you're angry all the time. and why you don't think malcolm x is a revolutionary and a fanatic, and i do, and all of that. we had to face all of that sociological crap in the middle
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of a successful, long marriage. >> it was a marriage that lasted 24 years, and you can't help but feel that lena horne regrets some of the hard times she gave lenny, and some of the affection she kept to herself. but she has always been withdrawn. not just from her audiences. she adored her father but was 40 years old before she could say to him, "i love you." ten years ago, she was dealt a series of tragic blows -- first her father died. six months later, teddy, her 29-year-old son died from kidney failure and then suddenly, her husband, lenny died of a heart attack. >> do you ever think of getting married again? >> no. i'm too -- >> don't tell me you're too old? >> no. well, i don't think that's got a lot to do with it except that i'm so old that i'm set in a lot of ways that i would hate to change.
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i'm spoiled. i wouldn't lay that burden on anybody, no. >> i'm a rich ready, ripe, juicy plum again ♪ ♪ bewitched bothered and bewildered ♪ >> you once said somewhere, you didn't want to be an older woman singing songs about sex and all of that stuff. >> yes. yes and i don't really, if i can avoid it now. >> when you sing "bewitched, bothered and bewildered." >> but it's funny, don't you think so. didn't you feel sorry for the old broad falling for that young thing. >> would you say, i'm a rich, juicy, ripe plum again. >> but you can't help your sexual nature. that's what that line means. if a lady treats other people as
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she would like to be treated, then she is allowed to go roll in the grass if she wants to. >> even if she is 64. >> even if she is 64. particularly then. [ laughter ] ♪ i go to opera and i stay wide awake ♪ ♪ that's why the lady is a tramp ♪ ♪ yes, honey, he like the green grass under my feet ♪ ♪ what can i do i'm all alone but i know that's why this lady -- that's why this here lady -- i don't know about all of you other ladies out there -- but that's why this lady is a tramp ♪ than i thought.
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>> osgood: the most important lesson some college-bound
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students of learn could be the one they're about to hear for free from our contractor, ben stein. >> in is the dreaded time of year when high school seniors find out what this he have to do the college of their choice. in modern times there's vastly more applications for aid missions to the prestigious colleges, the ivy league, the stanford, duke, chicago it's unlikely that the applicant gets into the college of her choice. that's a disappointment and one some people never get over. one of the most talented writers in america dent and framed her rejection letter from stanford after she with a a literary lion. i would like to tell those of who you didn't get into the college of your choice and your parents that getting into the ultraprestigious college really means very little in a lifetime and maybe nothing at all. as far as i can tell, the men and women who vey cheeved the most in life in terms of getting to do what they wanted, living a comfort life and getting
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recognition for it, did so pretty much without regard to where they went to college. yes, it helps a tiny bit to go to columbia or yale. but it help as a lot more to have good work habits make a minute by minute effort to get along with the people that you work with, and most of all to harmonize your goals with your talents. the giants i worked with in my life, richard nixon, norman leer, bill safire, jimmy kimmel, goldie hawn and many others tried different avenues to success and eventually found the things they were very good at and did it with focus. notice of the people that i named, none of them went to ivy league college. they did it by using the talents they were born with and not being afraid of taking risks and failing and making sure they were not prima donnas and staying in the game until they got over the goal line. no name on any diploma can mean as much as using what you have got from day one and using it to mean it. you didn't get into college of your choice, fine. neither did most of america.
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>> osgood: now let's check in with bob schieffer in washington for a look at what's ahead on "face the nation." good morning, bob. >> schieffer: good morning, charles. elena kagan once wrote that congressional hearings on supreme court nominees were vac yew us with and a waste of time. we'll ask key senators on the judiciary committee what they have planned for elena kagan. >> osgood: thank you, bob schieffer, we'll be watching. next here on "sunday morning." >> i like the gentle quiet loneliness of being alone. >> did they say that? what i like to call wrong. metamucil is the only leading fiber supplement with psyllium, which gels to help remove waste and reduce cholesterol. metamucil. ask more of your fiber. lcan feel like a jungle of ifs. to steer clear of the confusion, go to you'll get straight answers. like how much you need and how much it costs.
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>> osgood: what an honor to hear your personal memoirs read out loud, word for word in a theater. then again, mo rocca tells us -- maybe not. >> good morning! i'm joan lunden. >> imagine if you will, that we're not in a small manhattan theater. >> good morning america may go on the air at 7:00 a.m. but our workday starts some three hours earlie earlier, at 4:00 a.m. to be exact. >> raid yan rachel drach takes us into the predawn home of joan lunden. >> i'm a fanatic about not disturbing the family in the morning so i take the extra precaution of oiling the door hinges every month or so to prevent any loud squeaks.
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>> i'll be reading from one lifetime is not enough by zsa zsa gabor. >> next -- mario cantone escorts us behind prison walls, and the horror of zsa zsa's 72 hours in jail. >> terrified, i tried to block out the noise. as i do, i realize that for the first time since i am a child, i -- who normally sleep naked except for diamond earrings, have am not wearing them. >> the show is called "celebrity autobiography. wgs. >> we'll be reading from "burning up on tour with the jonas brothers." >> my life by burt reynolds. >> sex, by madonna. >> actors and comedians reading from actual celebrities actual autobiographies. >> this is our artistic mountain of material. >> the creators and sometimes
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performers are eugene pack and dale rayfell. >> do you think this could be -- >> miley cyrus. >> talk about suffering for their art. they have read more than 300 celebrity autobiographies. >> after the show, people come up to different people and say, that was funny what you wrote or -- did you write this, or who put this -- but it's real. >> i am reading "the poems of suzanne somers." >> that's right. the poetry of suzanne somers. >> this is from the volume, "touch me." >> recited by actress, rosie perez. >> i like the gentle quiet loneliness of being alone. although i thought of a friend last night, and almost called, but i decided not to because my hair needed washing. >> can this change the way you think about poetry in any way?
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>> no. >> if anyone has any extra love, even a heartbeat, or a touch or two, i you wish they wouldn't waste it on dogs. >> you know these people -- well, you think you know them, and then you read something that's intimate and personal and you're like -- oh, that's who they really are. >> suzanne sommer is not just the thighmaster lady, she also doesn't like dogs too much. >> david cassidy. >> celebrity autobiography relies on a rotating cast, many of them celebrities themselves. >> tommy, damn. >> like america's mom, florence henderson playing -- who else -- >> pamela anderson. >> last minute coaching spills into the stairwell. look, there's brooke shields. >> who is this in. >> elizabeth. >> one night brooke channels elizabeth taylor.
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>> eddie. >> another night, liz speaks through sherry shepard. >> i want us to be together again. >> it turns out that star love is often star crossed. >> there are in the relationship gone wrong, least two versions. >> who could forgot the saga of burt and lonnie told her in du l duelling autobiographies. it's christen johnson as lonnie, and ryan reynolds as burt reynolds, no relation. >> he was sweet and tentative and gentle as though he was going to break. >> during the non-stop animal attractio attraction. >> i'm falling in love with you. we belong together. >> okay. >> would you call the actual writing of the autobiographies a lapse in judgment. >> that right there is the key lapse in judgment is being a celebrity and saying, you know what -- people need to hear who i really am.
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>> kenny logens, there's of course, neil is a dak ka. >> and then it was my turn, but whose words could i presume to interpret. >> one idea is -- one of our all-time. >> vanna speaks. >> vanna white. >> vanna in fact doesn't really speak, so -- it leaves a lot of room for interpretation. >> exactly. >> while i have a little vanna in me, who doesn't -- >> merv says that he hired me because i turned the letters better than any of the other 200 women who auditioned. >> i have a whole other side waiting to be unleashed. >> let's talk about mr. t. >> i think it would be a perfect piece for you. >> mo rock ka. >> sorry vanna, i had to turn to mr. t. >> so, here is the unadulterated truth told, written, and spoken in such terms that even a fool can understand what i am talking about.
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>> them's quite unsettling, everybody! >> i had a life of my own, now. >> i celebrity autobiographies have given souse much to talk about. >> but we loved god. how we loved -- >> passion and heartache. >> i pushed her off. no! i said. >> triumph and failure. >> tears of pity ban began to well up in my badly made-up eyes. >> but celebrities have given us the mostly precious thing of all. themselves. >> my gift is simply this -- to be here with you, as fully as the gods will allow, and just let you love me. kenny, kenny logens. on earth. st powerfule and at ge, we're using it, right now, to create innovative technology that will improve the health of our economy... the health of the earth...
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